Friday, May 16, 2008

Out of control

This cop mouthed of to a police chief after the chief identified himself as such. The cop only got discipline and not fired. Boy if I ever mouthed of to my boss I'll be fired on the spot. hmm

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Do they test these cops for steroids. It looks like he might have been on something

Anonymous said...

So cop vs cop. Who cares. They should have shot each other and get it over with.

Anonymous said...

I second that. who is policing the police/

Anonymous said...

Never cease to amaze me. The problem is had it not been another cop there would have been trumped up charges that would have ruin some innocent guys life. Yep this is the good old USA for you.

Herod said...

It's hard for me to take sides with this one. Both look like fools. I guess if that cop had been a traffic agent he would have been assaulted. And if the chief had not been a chief. He would have had trumped up charges against him. When did the NYPD become an Aristocracy?

Anonymous said...

My gun is bigger then your gun. Complete idiots.

Anonymous said...

You cannot have different sets of rules one for civilians and one for officials. That's when all hell breaks loose. People should check out this site uncivil servants and see what I'm talking about.

Herod said...

The chief should have been charged. And the cop that assaulted that ticket agent should have also been charged. No one should be above the law.

calio said...

Agreed Herod. This pulling rank crap should not be allowed in a Nation of laws. No one should be above the law. Not the chief, nor that idiot cop who assaulted that traffic agent.

Anonymous said...

I meant the chief should have been ticketed for parking illegally.

Anonymous said...

Is this the website your tallking about? http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/

Therealflatbush said...

After reading the comments. I have to disagree with my original assessment.

recoil said...

When should a cop ignore the presence of a person with a gun?

The cop may have handled the situation imperfectly, but he saw a man with a gun and he reacted more-or-less according to regulations.

Anonymous said...

Recoil,

"The encounter turned testy, and one of the officers tried to wrest open Zeigler's door, even AFTER the three-star chief had identified himself..."

Whenever an off-duty or plain clothes officer or detective informs another officer/detective that he or she is on the job, the approaching officer/detective backs off. The problem is the color of skin. If the black 3 star chief was a white rookie, this situation would not have occurred.

Anonymous said...

That cop was in the wrong for trying to wrestle the door after the chief identified himself. My question is why was the chief parked illegal? This recoil character sounds like he takes the side of any white cop no matter what.

Herod said...

Recoil
That was pure intellectual dishonesty. If he Identified himself as a police chief then he cease to be "a person with a gun" He was a cop with a gun. My only problem is was he on the job or did he just felt entitled to park illegally because he was a cop, just like that other idiot cop that assaulted the traffic agent. This type of behavior by ALL cops should be look at by the higher ups.

Anonymous said...

You cannot try to out rank your superior officer after he Identified himself. Looking at the uncivilservants website they all pull this crap. Give me a break recoil.

Anonymous said...

Me thinks the nuance of the argument might be too tricky for recoil to comprehend. Go back to Fox News and Race baiting 24 hour cable news.

recoil said...

Who says the chief identified himself?

Moreover, why would any cop, if he believed he was facing a senior officer, violate departmental rules?

Does a cop walking a beat believe he has more authority than a chief driving an illegally parked car?

Or does a cop walking a beat consider the possibility that a man with a gun might be lying?

Anonymous said...

You said it "might be lying".Why would a cop think that a man might be lying after showing his badge, had a gun and was in a nypd issued vehicle? I think we all know the answer to that. As far as parking illegally. All you pigs do it. What about that cop that assaulted the ticket agent?

Anonymous said...

Recoil,

Read the article again, it states that the 3 Star Chief identified himself.

If you belive that America is NOT divided by race, and all people are treated EQUALLY, you will not have any problem with the police officer's behavior.

Also, police officers violate departmental rules frequently. The white officers will get a slap on the wrist, if anything. Officers of color will lose vacation time, get suspended with out pay, and have an administrative hearing at 1 P.P..

Most of the seargents, captains, and Lieutenants in NYPD are white. People of color are not allowed to move up the ladder. This is just how it is. This is America. Yes, there are many white people who really want equality, however, they do not have the power to change this country.

If that 3 Star Chief was a regular, day-to-day black citizen, I'm sure they would have arrested him and put him through the criminal "justice" system.

Anonymous said...

The NYPD as an institution is Racist. They all feel entitled to park illegally. Thats why that cop assaulted that traffic agent and will get away with it. If the chief had been white, showed his badge then their would not have been this ASSUMPTION that he might be LYING. Give me a break. I don't want to defend this chief. I think the whole NYPD crime organization are scumbags. As in the words of ICE CUBE the whole thing needs a douche.

Anonymous said...

Its like those third world countries. When someone goes missing theres always some bullshit explanation. "He had a gun." "I heard someone say yo get my gun" This is complete bullshit. They should have shot each other and get it over with. Bunch of assholes.

Anonymous said...

Police are the biggest scumbags in the world with their B.S explanation. First Sean Bell. Now the white ones are going after the black cops after these black ungle tom cops defended the nypd all those years. Good for these assholes. Fuck em all.

Terminator x said...

This recoil asshole is spitting the same bullshit explanation that they always have for Louma, Diallo, Bell, Dorisma. But only now his doing it against his own. Fucking black cops are ungle toms anyway. Now they know the badge don't make you white. These racist fucks will get you no matter what.

guru said...

As NWA would say. FUCK THE POLICE. All of them are a bunch of assholes. It gets me real angry to hear these same explanation over and over again. Now they do it against some black chief. As fox news analyst ambassador Peck would say, "the (NYPD's) chickens are coming home to roost. They should have just shoot each other. I agree with Terminator x they could all go to hell.

recoil said...

To all the anonymous posters:

No news reports of this incident include audio or video tapes of the event.

Therefore, you have only what was printed in newspapers or repeated by TV news people as a basis for your opinions.

So tell me why a cop walking a beat would knowingly harass a very superior officer if the beat cop knew he was harassing a very superior officer?

No low-ranking officer intentionally and knowingly harasses a high ranking officer. It doesn't happen.

Meanwhile, you have no way to know what steps the superior officer took to identify himself. No idea at all. And the leap you took to your conclusion shows you have no sense in the matter.

Meanwhile, you really don't know what you're talking about when you claim that blacks don't advance in the police department when this episode involves a high ranking black cop and a low-ranking white cop.

We've had a black police commissioner in NY City and there are no barriers stopping blacks from taking and passing the civil service exam for becoming a police officer.

But there is no doubt that many black candidates are disqualified because they lack the education and because they have records showing too much bad behavior in the past.

If you think the police department should hire people without high school diplomas who have criminal records to become cops, well, that's another story.

Anonymous said...

The defintion of Racism is. You flip the situation. Had the Black chief been white, the white cop would not have though that he was lying. End of Story

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recoil said...

anon May 20, you said:

"The defintion of Racism is. You flip the situation. Had the Black chief been white, the white cop would not have though that he was lying. End of story"

Yeah. Sure. No white cops have ever been accused of lying.

But more important is the obvious fact that no patrol cop would intentionally arrest or harrass or accost a superior officer -- of any color or race. That's the true End of Story.

Anonymous said...

The true end of the story is that said cop though superior was lying because said superior was BLACK.