Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Racial Steering Real Estate Broker From City Habitat


Tracey Boudine
City Habitat
It has been brought to my attention that one of the most racially insensitive real Estate Brokers is non other then the senior associate broker from New York City Habit. Her name is Tracey Boudine. Ms. Boudine has been using code words and racial steering tactics for a long time. Some of her tactics may have also run contrary against Civil Rights laws and Fair Housing Laws. For example in this ad she specifically mentions Vox Pop, Cafes, and Bars, but fails to mention any other establishments. While in this ad for a Co-op in Prospect Park Lefferts garden she again mentions all the "new" places but fails to mention any other establishments. This can be deemed a bias ad because if you mention one set of business and not others then it can be construed to be showing a preference for the type of individuals that would frequent such establishments. For example to advertise that an apartment is near a Catholic Church would be discrimination against non catholics. Her advertisements specifically mentions certain business establishment while conveniently leaving out other amenities that lets say a recent family from south America, the Caribbean or someone who is disable and may be interested in. In essence Ms. Boudine is saying we don't want your kind, unless you fit into a specific demographic I'm trying to steer.

95 comments:

Anonymous said...

I always wondered what Ms. Piggy was doing lately. Kermit would be proud.

Anonymous said...

Wow wow wow. your gonna get allot of enemies mr realflatbush. This blog is awesome. Expose these bastards.

kevin said...

That woman is one of the worst. I remember one of her ads a couple of years ago. She was always pushing vox pop. This is not going to be good for this neighborhood in the long run. If people feel like they are not getting a fair shake in the system that's when tension and resentment builds up. She's playing with peoples lives.

Herod said...

If people feel like they don't have equal access simply because of preferences based on race then nobody wins in the long run

Anonymous said...

This is awful.

pulisee said...

That woman needs to get her brokerage license yank immediately.

guru said...

I don't think this will be good for Vox Pop either. To be link with racist real estate agents? Sander hicks should have spoke out against this a long time ago.

Anonymous said...

Your assuming that this Hicks guy is a true activist. From his standpoint as long as he benefits from a racist agenda then why speak out against it?

Herod said...

I think this is part of the reason that there might be some resentments towards hipsters and yuppies. People feel like they get preferential treatment when they are looking for housing, simply because of their race. It's not their fault though. I just think this type of thinking from people like Tracey Boudine needs to stop. The sooner the better.

Anonymous said...

She needs to steer herself into a gym

justcool said...

Not just Hipsters and Yuppies. Young white College students are preferred when it comes to renting for no reason other then their race. They could be a mass murderer for all they care. Their Credit History, bankruptcies and Minimum Salary requirement are more likely to be overlooked. This is pure racism and will not do anything to solve this problem in the long run. People rant against the yuppies, but it's not their fault. It's people like Tracey Boudin and Jan Rosenberg that are perpetrating this type of racist thinking.

Anonymous said...

One of the last great institutions of racism is Real Estate. Why do you think perfectly "reasonable" people ask "what type of neighborhood is this?" Would it make any sense to ask your friends the racial breakdown of the company you work for, why should neighborhoods be any different?

Anonymous said...

This is the only blog that actually exposes the ugly truth.

Anonymous said...

The real flatbush will definitely be blacklisted by other neighborhood blogs.

sue said...

realflatbush, the "demographic" the realtor seeks is the class of people who can afford the rent or the sale price of the property.

Meanwhile, you don't have the slightest idea about the laws related to real estate and discrimination.

Let me know when a realtor representing properties in this area refuses to show a property to a qualified occupant.

Meanwhile, you better talk to a lawyer. You might find yourself as the defendant in a libel suit. You've smeared the reputation of a business person serving this community and based on what you've posted here, she's got a winnable case against you.

frank said...

To sue
HUD CHARGES OWNERS, MANAGERS OF SCRANTON, PA, APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH KEEPING OUT FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN. HUD has charged the owners and managers of The Mill, a 74-unit apartment complex in Scranton, PA, with violating the federal Fair Housing Act by refusing to rent to families with children. HUD’s investigation revealed the complex discouraged families with children from residing at the complex and advertised itself as “21 and over.” The charge follows an investigation HUD launched when it received information suggesting that the complex did not admit families with children

That is exactly what this woman is doing with her next to Vox Pop and "fabulous cafe" ads. She is advertising for a certain segment of the population. You cannot threaten a person or this blog for pointing out the truth,

Herod said...

Here are the advertisement housing guidlines. This women is clearly on the fridges. Her advertisement does raise a couple of red flags. http://www.mvfairhousing.com/pdfs/
ad-word-list.pdf

justcool said...

Once you start advertising for certain businesses near by then it will raise a red flag. Give me a break Sue. We all know what she meant with those next to Vox Pop and "fabulous cafe" ads. There was even a NY Times article on flatbush and how Vox Pop was an Anchor for more white people to move in. Is it just a coincidence that she uses vox pop in her ad? What if I'm not interest in going to a "fabulous" cafes or Vox Pop? Would I feel comfortable going to a real estate agent like that? Shouldn't all ads be Neutral?

Anonymous said...

Why are there no posts on the previous thread about volunteers? We need to stop bitching about how we are getting pushed out by racist realtors and give each other a hand up. Don't wait on help from anywhere else because it's not coming. Help someone learn to read so that they can get a decent job, educate their kids who can then open real estate agencies of their own and rent/sell to who ever they damn well please. These "yuppies" and "hipsters" get on my nerves too but of course they will try to steer more of their kind to the area. I don't even want some of my ghetto ass neighbors living nnear me. They don't pick up the trash in front of their house, have old rusty cars in the backyard and driveway, illegally rent out the basement, play loud music, have siding falling off of the house, etc... When my parents first bought their house the neighborhood was still mostly white. The hosues were all well kept. Well as soon as more of us started coming in many of the previously well kept houses now look like shit. Seriously, why is this? Can't blame that on the realtors.

Herod said...

If you are going to complain about no posts on the volunteer post then how come you did not post on the volunteer post? I never said yuppies get on my nerve. As a matter of fact I have any problem if yuppies/buppies/cabbies or any other ies' move in. My problem is with these real estate agents who are using illegal tactics which in the long run will do more to divide and create unneeded tension. Why can't they just have a race neutral approach when it comes to advertising and renting? What was done in the past has obviously not worked and yet they continue to behave in the same old patterns. As far as getting "our" own agencies to rent to whom ever "we" want.. you can't fight racism with more racism.It's not a matter of black vs white. It's wrong vs right. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of black real estate agents that discriminate against other races and even whites. That's wrong also. I don't think it's appropriate to degrade all black home owners the way you did. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of black homeowners who keep up their homes. Maybe it's just your neighbors and it has nothing to do with their race.

Herod said...

I meant to say I don't have any problems with yuppies

aaron said...

To sue
You obviously don't know what you are talking about. You might not agree with it, but that ad raises legitimate questions. If she did try to sue I'm pretty sure the ACLU would be quick to take on therealflatbush blog as a client. She would also bring more scrutiny to her pass dealings with clients, including the racial breakdown of the people she got apartments for.

Anonymous said...

aaron,

Good point. Sue would have to produce documentation reflecting how she provided homes for all people, regardless of race, sex, ethnicity and sexual orientation.

Anonymous said...

This realtor is well within her right to advertise a neighborhoods ammenities as long as they are not affiliated with or discriminatory toward a protected class under the Fair Housing guidelines. If she advertised that this apartment was near "Temple Beth Elohim, a progressive temple" or walking distance from the "Irish American Cultural Center," she would be in violation. She may even advertise ammenities such as golf courses, eateries, parks etc... The mere mention of The Farm but not mentioning New Neighbor or Golden Crust does not constitute discrimination. Realtors know just how far to push the limits without crossing the line.

carl said...

She may be skirting around the letter of the law but she is in vialation of the spirit of the law. Courts do take that into account. Especially when it comes to Civil Rights issues in the pass. If you can cite the various News article over the years that portrayed vox pop as an anchor for more white people to move in and she specifically mentions vox pop in a real estate ad then she may have a problem.

flatbushlawstudent said...

"affiliated with or discriminatory toward a protected class under the Fair Housing guidelines"

I think there might be a case against her mainly because of all the Newspaper articles. The last article on AMNY had a picture galary which had no persons of color in it except for the server. The question would have to arise is What would a reasonable person in a similar situated circumstance believe this ad was for? The reasonable person in a similar situated circumstance in this case would have to be a person who lives in Flatbush or a similar neighborhood with similar venues like vox pop or the farm. What is the prevailing attitude or character of these places? Are they affiliated with a certain group? Would someone (from a protected class) who saw this ad feel uncomfortable or discourage from going to this realtor for an apartment? You will also have to look at other real estate ads in similar situated neighborhoods and see if this is the norm. Do other agents advertise similar venues while leaving out others? Would a reasonable agent in a similar situated circumstance have had advertise in the same way? Or was her ad out of the norm of real estate ads?

Anonymous said...

Flatbushlawstudent,

It appears that you enjoyed your con law class. My prediction for your grade: nothing below a B+.

sue said...
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sue said...

flatbushlawstudent, newspapers print what they print, and when it comes to photos they decide for themselves which pictures to include with their stories. The realtor is not responsible for the content of a news article.

Thus, if there is a reason to believe the article conveys a racist bias on the part of the realtor, then the realtor may become a plaintiff in a suit naming the newspaper as the defendant.

sue said...

frank, you are a dope. YOu wrote:

"HUD CHARGES OWNERS, MANAGERS OF SCRANTON, PA, APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH KEEPING OUT FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN...

"HUD’s investigation revealed the complex discouraged families with children from residing at the complex and advertised itself as “21 and over.”"

In other words, the APARTMENT COMPLEX management engaged in AGE DISCRIMINATION. Of course, this may well have been an attempt to keep out troublemakers. Since the management wants the business to operate profitably, there are lots of reasons to seek the best possible tenants.

On the other hand, the realtor in question works for an agency -- not for a single apartment complex. Hence, she has no reason to violate laws about renting and selling residences.

Frank, you also copied:

"HUD has charged the owners and managers of The Mill, a 74-unit apartment complex in Scranton, PA, with violating the federal Fair Housing Act by refusing to rent to families with children."

Has this case been resolved? Or is HUD -- one of the worst agencies in US government history -- still wrestling with it?

When did this investigation begin?

sue said...

If you want racism in real estate, then visit Carver Bank.

Go to Carver's website, where you can read all about Carver's intention to serve black customers. Check the photos on Carver's site for racial balance. Check the text. It is a bank that describes itself as being all about the black community.

Try substituting the word "white" wherever you find "African American" or minority and see how it sounds. Does your head explode? Probably not.

sue said...

aaron you wrote:

"If she did try to sue I'm pretty sure the ACLU would be quick to take on therealflatbush blog as a client."

She is not accountable for the race or ethnicity of the people who respond to her ads.

You added:

"She would also bring more scrutiny to her pass dealings with clients, including the racial breakdown of the people she got apartments for."

She is not responsible for decisions made by lenders or building managements regarding loans or credit checks.

By the way, every time I drop by Vox Pop there is at least one black female there. Do you think the realtor pays black women to hang round on occasion so that she can avoid legal problems when she acknowledges coffee shops in the area?

Anonymous said...

"sue",

You are very sad.

jazzman said...

I actually dealt directly with Tracy Boudine when I decided to move back to the area. I told her (over the phone) I was interested in living in "western flatbush", so she began pushing apts. near Flatbush Avenue. She had no idea what my race is (white, in fact), but because I used the word "Flatbush" she probably assumed black and then began steering; in fact I was primarily interested in the general area I grew up, i.e. between Ocean Ave. and Coney Island Ave.

However, I still would like to know why Vox Pop keeps getting implicated as somehow "racist" on this blog. I'm not saying it is or isn't - I'm simply requesting clear, hard evidence (despite the fact that a steady stream of, say, 20% of their clientele, is black, and bear in mind they are on the border of Flatbush, one block from Kensington, which has a pretty small black population compared to Flatbush) that Vox Pop somehow engages in or condones racism in any way. Just because a business attracts people more of one race than another doesn't make it racist; else we could call many businesses on Flatbush Avenue "racist" because most customers are black - which would be nonsense, of course. Are the Mexican groceries racist? Or the Dominican hair salons? Of course not. However, those signs that you often see that say "Se renta cuarto"...that's a different story. As India.Arie says, "Spirit knows no color - either you're a hater or a lover."

Herod said...

I don't think that vox pop is racist. I just think that there are agents who use vox pop for there own racial steering purposes. But it's not the fault of vox pop though.

sue said...

herod says...

-- I don't think that vox pop is racist. I just think that there are agents who use vox pop for there own racial steering purposes. But it's not the fault of vox pop though. --

It is true that "agents" use Vox Pop for various purposes. The most import purpose is keeping an eye on Sander Hicks, the owner. They want to ruin him.

"Agents", as Hicks will tell you, have been operating secretly around him for years, trying to discredit him because he says the Bush Administration was behind 9/11. His sale of books claiming Bush Administration involvement has made him a target of Bush "agents." His personal investigative efforts intouncovering secrets of the Bush Administration have caused the Administration to label him an Enemy of the State.

The "agents" have been trying to destroy his credibility. One of their sleazy tricks involves smearing Vox Pop as a gathering place for racists. Birds of a feather, as is often said. They repeatedly pass around the story that Vox is involved in housing discrimination and helps realtors bring in more and more white renters and buyers as part of a plan to drive blacks from Flatbush like St. Patrick drove snakes from Ireland.

According to the "agents" the racist gang at Vox is more subtle than that, however. No evidence of connections to the Klan are visible. No nooses have ever been hung on the walls. No admissions of using slave labor to harvest the coffee beans have ever been heard. They run a tight ship over there at Vox, even planting black coffee drinkers with laptops who appear to be writing profound treatises on race relations, according to the "agents".

The "agents" say the address of the coffee shop gives away the racist secrets of Vox, its evil management and the conspiracy linking the coffee shop to the cabal of realtors aiming to make Victorian Flatbush into a copy of England and the era that inspired its creation. Vox is on the corner of Stratford Road.

What do the names Stratford, Westminster, Argyle, Rugby, Marlborough, Albemarle and Dorchester suggest?

England, or Africa? Shakespeare or shaking spears? British royalty or African tribalism? Henry the 8th or Henry Louis Gates? The King of England or the king of the jungle? The Playing Fields of Eton or eating the players on the field?

It's obvious a terrible injustice is underway, and every day it gets worse.

jazzman said...

What do the names Stratford, Westminster, Argyle, Rugby, Marlborough, Albemarle and Dorchester suggest?

England, or Africa? Shakespeare or shaking spears? British royalty or African tribalism? Henry the 8th or Henry Louis Gates? The King of England or the king of the jungle? The Playing Fields of Eton or eating the players on the field?


I'm not sure what street names like "Westminster" suggest, but I'm pretty sure what this paragraph suggests. The irony is that it seems to betray the subconscious opinions of its author (I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on that one.)

A black friend of mine sometimes kids me when a white celebrity publicly does something stupid by saying "Hey...these are your people."

In this case, however, although Sue and I may have skin of a similar shade...she is definitely not one of my people.

In the interests of healing, I'll leave you with this quote by a man whose music I discovered as a teenager growing up in Flatbush in the 1980's:

"I don't have prejudice against himself. My father was a white and my mother was black. Them call me half-caste or whatever. Me don't dip on nobody's side. Me don't dip on the black man's side nor the white man's side. Me dip on God's side, the one who create me and cause me to come from black and white."

- Robert Nesta Marley

pulisee said...

I have to agree thoes ads are obnoxious as hell.

pulisee said...

those

jake said...

Why does it take a blog to expose what these people are up to? What exactly are our government officials doing?

kevin said...

I think Real Estate brokers feel like they can get away with anything. Even the National Realtors Association tells them to follow the letter of the law. The letter of the law is obviously not enough. Any reasonable person can see clearly what these ads are aiming for.

lou said...

I think people should be free to move were they want without these racial steering practices from real estate agents. In the long run it will be to the benefit of everyone.

miky said...

Vox Pop is definitely not a racist place. I can't explain as eloquently as the flatbush law student but I agree. What is the general reputation of vox pop to the residents of flatbush. Is it widely known to be frequented more by a certain portion of the residents? I have no doubt that vox pop,connnecticut muffing etc are extremely open to everyone, but the question that the flatbush law student ask was what is the general reputation of these establishments? What do they have in common? If they have certain traits in common, it stops being a coincidence and she might have a problem with Fair Housing Laws.

hmm said...

She is incredibility transparent as to what she is doing. Where is Elliot Spitzer when you need him? The Attorney General's Office should do a probe on these Real Estate Firms.

ityt said...

I don't know What's more obnoxious those next to Fabulous cafe ads or that crazy Sue woman

sue said...

If you want racism in advertising, see the website of Carver Bank.

It bills itself as a bank that operates for the benefit of blacks, and informs customers and potential customers that it is run by blacks.

If the ads and the website are not clear enough, there is the name itself -- Carver. As in George Washington Carver, one of the few black scientists in the history of the world.

How do you think whites feel about seeking a loan from a bank that openly states it exists to serve the black community?

Is that racist or what?

sue said...

jazzman says...

"I'm not sure what street names like "Westminster" suggest"

Here's the clue. The street names capture the essence of the WASP -- the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.

Since its creation about a century ago, the neighborhood has proclaimed its whiteness and its identification with British heritage in every way. The effect was extended with the naming of Kensington and Windsor Terrace.

With respect to Crown Heights, I'm unsure which crown is referenced. But probably the English crown.

Is there any part of Prospect Park that does not recall England? The Nethermead? Quaker Hill?

jazzman, you added "A black friend of mine sometimes kids me when a white celebrity publicly does something stupid by saying "Hey...these are your people.""

Yeah, that's when I think of City Councilman Charles Barron, and his quoted statements of how he hates whites and supports the teaching of ebonics in public schools. I kid myself and say, yeah, he isn't one of my people.

hmm said...

Apparently Sean Hannity lives in Flatbush

Herod said...

Sue you are so ignorant I don't even know if I should even respond. Why don't you look into the history of caver bank and see why it was created. It was created because blacks were not allowed to bank at other establishment until about 40 years ago. It still goes on till this day with predatory lending and targeting minority neighborhoods with sub prime mortgages.

Anonymous said...

Methinks sue missed a few black history month classes

Anonymous said...

What an idiot

hmm said...

The funny thing is that Sue might very well be a local Realtor

Anonymous said...

I was thinking more like Pat Buchannan

Anonymous said...

Sue is the winner for the Biggest Idiot on Flatbush

Anonymous said...

Yo sue do you also give happy endings with every closing?

calio said...

I'm guessing Sue is not a fan of Barack Obama. Just a hunch

Anonymous said...

I'm guessing Sue is not a fan of Logic.

other sue said...

I'm changing my name

pulisee said...

Yo sue do you wear a Pink KKK hood during valentines day?

Anonymous said...

Sue did you get a bad hand job from Jan Rosenberg or something?

lostboy said...

Sue is SUE-PID

tom said...

Yes sue we all know how hard it is for us white folk to get loans from banks, those black people have it sooo easy. Especially when these predatory landers target them for sub-prime mortgages. While we have to fend of we more favorable lending practices.

asswipe said...

Sue is very smart. I think she should be the next president of the united states of america

terry said...

I think Sue should be the next grand wizard of the flatbush kkk.

justcool said...

So is the type of people this Tracey Boudine wants to bring into flatbush? I think that's were the danger lies. You can't sugar coat a neighborhood. I think the majority of the white people who live in flatbush are not racist, but people like Sue do exist.

Anonymous said...

Sue why do you only wear white hoods? Don't you think you should spies it up more. Maybe like a colorful robe and hood for the West Indian day parade. I mean this is flatbush after all.

Anonymous said...

spice it up more. typed too fast

Anonymous said...

Yo Sue if you gonna live in flatbush you need to learn how to do the kkk version of the Dutty Whine

asswipe said...

Sue don't listen to them. I think you were fantastic on Jerry Springer. Did you decide to have that baby with your brother?

sue said...

herod,

Carver Bank is a bank that aims to serve blacks.

If another bank used the same advertising strategy for serving white customers, YOU would be the first to cry Racism.

Carver was founded to meet a need. There were black city residents seeking loans, but they were not getting loans from most banks. That was a long time ago.

Here's a fact for you. Carver is a public bank -- you can buy stock in Carver. But buying stock in Carver is a bad idea. Why? Becasue the bank is a lousy bank when it comes to building the business.

Carver Bank stock is the worst performing stock of any bank headquartered in NY City. The worst.

You made me laugh when you said:

"It was created because blacks were not allowed to bank at other establishment until about 40 years ago."

Your statement is outright lie. No one was prevented from DEPOSITING money at any bank. But, it's true that blacks had problems getting loans. That was then.

The funniest part of your claim is this:

"It still goes on till this day with predatory lending and targeting minority neighborhoods with sub prime mortgages."

Now, in your dopiness, you are claiming that banks gave TOO MUCH MONEY to black borrowers. In the past, banks would not lend to blacks. Recently, banks have been giving out money in bushel baskets. But, in your mind, that's bad too.

I gather that means you believe it's a mistake to give money to a black man because he'll spend it on something stupid. Is that it?

A more accurate term would be Prediatory Borrowing. Do you know people who got in trouble with loans?

If you do know people who had loan problems, tell me what they bought with the borrowed money.

The funniest part of this thread is how all the complaints about one white real estate agent show the extent of anti-white bias in the neighborhood.

Is it your belief that too many whites are moving in?

I walked down Flatbush Avenue today, from Brooklyn College to Empire Boulevard. There were very few white faces on the street.

New York City is about 25% black, 25% hispanic, 42% white and 8% asian. Brooklyn is less white than the city overall. Flatbush is probably 80% black and hispanic and less than 20% white.

There's no question about which group is in the minority here. Nevertheless, you and a few others are angry about the handful of whites buying homes in a few small neighborhoods.

Does your attitude seem racist to you? Or are you blind to your own anti-white sentiments?

justcool said...

Sue you have either got to be the biggest moron or just a racist. Why is it that you have a problem with carver bank? Do you also have a problem with all women colleges and tittle 9 or is it just black people that you don't like?

Anonymous said...

I think it's about time to ignore the racist troll

sue said...

justcool,

Carver Bank? Problem? NO problem. I guess you're just slow.

This thread claims that a real estate agent is a racist because she mentions the name of Vox Pop in ads for properties.

First, Vox means Voice. And Pop is short for Populi. Populi means People. The phrase is Vox Populi, or Voice of the People. As goofy as Sander Hicks may be, his coffee shop is an expression of his egalitarianism.

Of all the businesses to pick to convey your belief in local racism, you and your like-minded friends found the one without a hint of what you claim. Starting from that point, it's obvious your understanding of racism is so flawed that the only conclusion is that you have no idea what you're saying.

Carver Bank, as I said, promotes itself as a NY City bank more interested in serving one race rather than another. This obvious fact seems to escape you, or, you think it's okay for Carver to highlight its black orientation.

It does not matter to me that Carver seeks black customers over white customers. But it does. However, it offends you that I mention Carver's race-based advertising.

Are you overly sensitive to the fact that a black business shows a racial preference for customers?

hmm said...

I'm guessing she doesn't have a problem with all women colleges

Anonymous said...

This is the normal stuff you hear on white supremacist radio

Anonymous said...

Well we all know how hard it is for the oppress white majority to get loans from banks.

terry said...

this woman is pathetic

sue said...

hmmm, do you know that the valedictorian of Morehouse College Class of 2008 is white?

As for women's colleges and men's colleges and giving preferences to applicants based on gender and/or race, well, a private college can do that. A state -- government-supported -- school cannot.

Banks base lending on a borrower's credit worthiness. Over the past couple of years, money was loaned to almost anyone if the borrower intended to buy residential real estate.

Where's the problem? Are you arguing that black borrowers are unable to borrow sensibly?

Anonymous said...

I think you made a good point as to what these businesses have in common in all those ads. As a matter of fact anyone who had contact with Tracey Boudine in the past maybe wise to form some kind of class action lawsuit.

Anonymous said...

A class action suite would have to brought against City Habitat as well. They have the big pockets.

sue said...

anon says...

"A class action suite would have to brought against City Habitat as well. They have the big pockets."

Suite? Like a big room at a hotel?

Big pockets? Yeah, it would take a very big pocket if City Habitat were to stick a whole suite in it.

Like I said, Flatbush is 80% black and hispanic. It's tough to claim racism drives real estate action when a couple of whites move into the area. Unless you mean anti-white racism.

Anonymous said...

I think it would be possible to have a class action suit. As long as people who have come in contact with Tracey Boudine can prove bias. From what it looks like it would not be that hard. HUD also does investigations individually so anyone can file a complaint individualy. They can also contact Fair Housing Non Profits like ACORN and they can test for bias before a suit is filed. Similar to what was done with Concoran recently. But the optimal solution would be to sue individually or through a class action against Citi Habitat and other realtors and landlords.

Anonymous said...

They can also file a complaint with the New York City Human Rights Commission. You just have to call 311. Essentialty from the looks of it, every (BLACK)home seeker or renter in Flatbush (and all of Brooklyn as well), should have their papper work as well as the number to HUD when looking to buy or rent. I think having the address of the building and printing out a copy of the ad would be enough to start an investigation with HUD and NYC HRC.

fdes said...

Getting the name of the real estate agent is also important. By law they(real estate agents, landlords, and their associates) can be criminaly charged for intervering with your right to claim bias in a Fair Housing dispute.

Anonymous said...

It would be easy to prove the intent of these real estate agencies in light of what is going on right now. I think one of the posters hit it right on the head. What do these places have in common in those ads? Were they just ramdomly picked? If not then Citi Habitat may have a big problem in it's hand.

Anonymous said...

You would also have to compare her ads for flatbush with her other ads. Are they similar or was it tailored for Flatbush? I look at the Citi Habitat website and her ads for Briton Beach are not that obnoxious. Very troubling

sue said...

fdes and others,

Keep dreaming about class-action lawsuits.

At its core, your argument is based on keeping whites out of Flatbush, an area with a very low white population.

If there's any racist intentions on display, it's coming from you clowns.

Anonymous said...

I think there comes a time when you have to stand up for you rights. As far as I'm concern every black person looking for a house or to rent should be arm with the phone number of HUD as well as NYC HRC. Its obvious as to what is going on. Replace a black with a white person every time a black person moves out.

Anonymous said...

That women has been doing this for a couple of years now. Keep black people out and replace with whites. This whole concept of gentrification is based on racism

wayne said...

This is outrageous. Those ads are so transparent that it's not even funny. What exactly are our elected officials doing do allow this type of thing to go on? Why can't they just have a race neutral approach to renting everywhere. It's people like Tracey Boudine that has made Brooklyn one of the most segregated places in the country. She is not interested in integration. She just wants to replace blacks with whites. All those people see is race.

Anonymous said...

The average settlement for a fair housing violation with HUD is $10,000. There is no limit as to how many times one person can file a claim. Discrimination is so rampant in Brooklyn. I'm thinking of trying to test these places for bias and sue them just for the money. Kill two birds with one stone

jojo said...

You can do that. Right now Bay Ridge, Dyker Heights, Bensonhurst and Midwood are the most racist. So if you wanted to make allot of money just posing as a potential renter in those places as well as certain real estate agents in flatbush you can make allot of money. Just make sure you have a white friend as well to prove different treatment, but most of the time you won't even need it. These people are so racist and ignorant of fair housing laws they won't even knoe what hit them.

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Anonymous said...

Some of you are so dumb. Can't spell. Poor grammar. Arguments that lack logic.

AND

Even if this realtor wanted to replace every Black person who moves from an apartment in Flatbush with a white person, there just aren't enough white people in NYC who want to live in Flatbush. Don't flatter yourselves.

Anonymous said...

Shut up, Sue. You write well but your arguments are flawed and reading your
redundant statements is draining. You're like a petulant attention-seeking little spoiled brat whose mouth has to be covered when its (note "it") to stop the meaningless yet indignant and self righteous whine. Weh weh weh.Carver Bank. Weh Weh. Carver Bank. Weh. Whatever. So why do you keep writing? You were blocked out- leave. You are an angry, angry person. Please, get some rest.